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中国IPv9真相(11)第一次开庭递交证据清单-5

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 证据五、200476China disowns IPv9 hype(中国否认IPV9是骗局)

(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/06/ipv9_hype_dismissed/ )

Mystery protocol isn't taking over China, after all

By John LeydenGet more from this author

Posted in Data Networking, 6th July 2004 10:37 GMT

Evidence is growing that IPv9, hyped up the widely-adopted foundation of a next generation Internet infrastructure in China, is really a marginal project backed by few even in China.

Reports from China this week about widespread adoption of the previously unheard of Internet protocol have created bewilderment and something approaching a diplomatic incident in the sysadmin community.

Vint Cerf, SVP of technology strategy at MCI, and one of chief architects of the modern Internet, was bewildered by the reports. In an email sent to senior figures in the Chinese Internet community, he asked: "What could this possibly be about? As far as I know, IANA [Internet Assigned Numbers Authority] has not allocated the IPv9 designation to anyone. IPv9 is not an Internet standard. Could you please explain what is intended here? I am disturbed by the reference to root servers, 'control'. What is the 'ten digit text file' all about? Who is behind the Shanghai Jiuyao Digital Network Company?"

Professor Hualin Qian of the Computer Network Information Center of the Chinese Academy of Sciences described IPv9 as a research project that turned out to have serious practical shortcomings and little support.

"CNIC explains IPv9 is proposed by the director, Mr. Xie Jian-Ping, of the Institute of Chemical Engineering located in Shanghai. Two years ago, Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) invited them to introduce their idea about IPv9. According to my understanding, their proposal includes two main aspects: the first one is IPv9, the second one is Digital Domain Names.

"For IPv9, they think that the address space of IPv6 (128bits long) is not enough for future use, they expanded the IP address to 256 bits. I don't think the protocols for IPv9 have major difference from IPv6 except the longer IP address. Almost all the people working on networks in CAS do not agree with their opinion, because there is not any evidence showing that the IPv6 address is not enough and using 256 bits source and destination IP address will increase the overhead of an IP packet. And when communicating with IPv4/IPv6, equipment such as NAT-PT [Network Address Translation] must be installed. This will be the bottle neck for future high capacity interconnection with IPv4 and IPv6 global Internet."

Hualin added that IPv9 is unfamiliar to network experts from Fudan University in Shanghai who "do not know any deployment of IPv9 in Shanghai" contrary to initial reports by China's official news agency, Xinhua.

Tim Chown of Southampton University, and technology adviser to the IPv6 Task Force in the UK, told El Reg: "The consensus now seems to be it is one researcher or group trying to promote a 256-bit adaptation of IPv6, but it doesn't yet seem to have much traction. It is hard to tell how serious it is, or whether it is a complete non-starter in the same way as Jim Fleming's ludicrous IPv8 is. There may well be some sensible ideas behind IPv9, but IPv6 is the system that is standardised and now (very) widely implemented." ®

[译文]  越来越多的证据表明IPV9在中国是一个骗局,据说它是中国下一代所采用的互联网的架构基础。

    这周来自中国的Ipv9相关报道,随着这个报道在业内传开,这个从未听说过的互联网协议已经在互联网系统管理社区造成了困惑以至被认为是一个不幸消息。

    当代互联网的首席架构师、MCI公司技术战略高级副总裁Vint Cerf先生也被这些报道迷晕了。在他给中国互联网社区的一封电子邮件中说道这个IPV9可能会是什么呢?据我所知,IANA(互联网编码资源分配机构)没有将IPV9分配给任何人。IPV9不是互联网的标准。你能解释一下宣传IPV9的目的是什么嘛? 我对这些所谓的根服务器的说法感到困惑,什么是十进制文本文件’‘控制?谁是上海久耀数码网络有限公司的幕后人?

    中国科学院计算机网络中心(CNIC)的钱华林研究员把IPV9描述成这样一个研究项目:它是有着严重实际缺陷和几乎没有支持的一个项目。

    钱华林解释说,“IPV9是由上海化学工程研究所谢建平主任提出的,2年前中国科学院邀请他们介绍关于IPV9。根据我的理解,他们的提议包括2方面:一是IPV9,二是数字域名。

    “关于IPV9,他们认为IPV6128位长)地址空间在未来的使用中不够用,他们把IP地址扩展到256位。我认为这个IPV9的协议除了在IP地址的长度上与IPV6没有太大的区别,几乎所有在中国科学院互联网工作的人都不同意他们观点。因为,没有任何证据显示IPV6地址不够用,而使用256位的资源和目的地IP地址将增加一个IP包头。并且当使用IPv4/IPv6进行通讯的时候,必须要安装如网络地址转换器”(NAT-PT,注:种协议的转换器)这样的设备。这样就会在未来高容量IPv4IPv6全球互联网络中出现瓶颈。

    钱华林还补充说,来自上海复旦大学的网络专家消息称在上海不知道任何IPV9的配置且不熟悉IPV9,与中国政府新闻社新华社的原始报道相反。

英国南安普顿大学的Tim Chown先生,他也是英国IPV6工程组的技术顾问告诉记者,现在看起来舆论好像是一个研究者或者是一组研究人员正试图促进一个256字节IPV6,然而它似乎并没有这么大的推动力。很难告诉大家这是一个多么的严重问题,也许它是否就象当初Jim Fleming以同样方式提出‘IPV8方案一样,是一个完全无法启动的方案。也许在IPV9的背后可能会有明智的想法,但是大家知道今天的IPV6己是一个这样的系统:它是一个标准化的、现在已经广泛被实施应用的一个系统。

证据六:《评中国IPv9”会成为民族败类?》http://w.org.cn/user1/4/archives/2005/577.html 博客中国网站 2005-05-04 00:29:38 出现一位未注册网友 (IP:220.207.16.*)评论笔者拙文《博客随笔(89)麦田是否真的了解博客?》一贴,这么写道:
   
沈阳本身就是一个就是坯子,不懂技术,打着所谓记者牌子,冒充为IT专家,乱评IPV9,在事实面前,无疾而终,最后长了外国人的气焰,做了民族败类。劝沈阳做事踏实,每发表一篇文章,应先成为业者领先的专家,而不是混饭吃抡眼球!

    
     
证据七 IPv9,中国的创新,还是骗子的杰作?》(http://www.tektalk.org/2008/03/27/ipv9%ef%bc%8c%e4%b8%ad%e5%9b%bd%e7%9a%84%e5%88%9b%e6%96%b0%ef%bc%8c%e8%bf%98%e6%98%af%e9%aa%97%e5%ad%90%e7%9a%84%e6%9d%b0%e4%bd%9c%ef%bc%9f%ef%bc%88%e5%9c%a8%e7%ba%bf%e4%b8%8b%e8%bd%bd%e5%85%a8/ ) 系列目录 IPv9——骗子的杰作

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